quality of that life. And there are certain things, and a lot of times it’s no real fault of your own that come into play, that knock us down, that make…that take things away from us, that otherwise, our bodies have a right and want to be and you’re a healer, so, you know, but want to stay in its maximum potential form, and we have processed food that comes into play. We’re more sedentary now, since we’ve become, you know, a technology world, if you will, with all of our social media and all of our computers. You know, I’m old enough to remember before we had all that. So it’s a different day and age, but it also has created an unhealthy population, and though we have to counterbalance and undo the things that are coming at us every single day and try to be better about how we take care of ourselves. So I always had this, this goal. So my father died at a very young age. I know I just skipped three different thoughts, but my father died at a very young age. He was 46 and I want he was sick for quite a while, so I watched his lifestyle change drastically from age 30 to 46 just the quality of life going down. And when you as a child, when you’re watching that you’re thinking is that what’s in store for me? He also had very, very bad lifestyle habits. He smoked, he drank on occasion, he over ate. He was very gregarious. He had a very high stress job. He was in computers in the 60s, the head of finance at the Transamerica corporation working on computers before we know what computers are like now, and it all those things. He didn’t exercise, he stopped after college, and all those things came into play. And that’s when I realized that when he got super sick, that he wasn’t going to be around to walk me down the aisle. He wasn’t going to be around to meet my children or my grandchildren or great grandchildren, you know, it, just. And that’s really, I mean, that’s what we want in life, that’s full of love and joy that we get from our family and friends, and if you’re battling disease, there’s not a lot of joy in that. It takes away. And so I started getting healthy when I was in college, based on what I saw from the activity my father, because my goal at that time was to be able to chase after my grandchildren, and I am not there yet, but I do have granddaughter so, you know, and I still have a lot of life left, so I just might meet that goal. And, you know, I’ve obviously at 67 years old. I’ve outlived my father. His sister only lived to 60, and so too many people I loved, I saw going the wrong way based on their lifestyle, and I slowly but surely changed mine, which started the things I was saying in the beginning. There was that snowball effect for me. I started to see my hair grow, my nails grow. I had clarity in my classes because I was in college when I decided that this whole processed, ultra processed food life wasn’t for me. I started playing tennis because I started to feel better. So I wanted to move. And more you move, the more you want to move. So you take your level up, and that’s how I ended up getting having a side hustle of being a fitness instructor, a cycle instructor, a personal trainer, and that was always just a little side hustle, because I had a very high stress job as a television commercial producer for the better part of 30 years. But I’ll tell you that stress would have brought me down a lot sooner and a lot faster, and I could have been on that road that my father was on, had I not implemented this healthy lifestyles side by side, along with the stressful life, plus I was a mother and a wife and you know, all those things, you know, come into play for stress. And stress is we know the hold it takes on our body. So it was important to me to kind of out run that, that life to make my life healthier.

 

Manon Bolliger  07:58

And you know, and I think often, you know, when you’re a busy person and you’re living a stressful job, and you know, it doesn’t matter why it’s stressful, it’s, it’s stress to your body, right? No matter what, it’s hard to rationalize, oh, I’ll also do tennis. I’ll also do this and I’ll, it feels like, Oh, I’m just doing more stuff. I’m, you know, when am I ever going to take time off and, and I’ve heard that so many times, how do you speak to people who are like, you know? I mean, there’s a saying, you know, you want something done. Give it to a busy person.

 

Debi Carlin Boyle  08:40

Yeah.

 

Manon Bolliger  08:42

Because it gets done, right? So, I mean, I understand that. Yet, when you’re in a position of having, you know, you decide, Okay, it’s time to make some changes in life now. But you just, you can’t see where, where to start. What, how do you talk with those people?

 

Debi Carlin Boyle  09:01

Yeah, and I get, I get those people too. Somebody come into one of my…I teach these strength training classes because, of course, building muscle protects our bones, which creates longevity and all kinds, you know, our lymphatic system. There’s so many reasons why we should lift heavy things, but she hadn’t exercised in years, and one of my clients brought her into my class. Sorry, that’s my dog, and she had she’s going through a very stressful divorce, and financially she’s had to move recently. Divorce itself is a loss, and there’s a mourning period. And what happened was she gained probably 40 pounds in this last year of all the stress that she’s been and she is a professor at a local college. I think she’s professor of English literature, and she was too afraid to get started. So she was too afraid to come into the class, because she felt like she had gone down the rabbit hole and there was no climbing out of it. And my client was able to say, Listen, you’re gonna like the class. She’ll meet you where you’re at, even though there’s other students in there, and it’s fun. One thing she likes to do, she liked to dance. So I kind of knew that ahead, and that’s part of our warm up, was we put the music loud and everybody it’s kind of like the old school Jane Fonda aerobics, warm warm up, and right away, that just gets the energy up. It also gets our blood pumping, our muscles warm, you know? It gets us ready to rock and roll. And all of a sudden I saw she came, and she came up front, and she, my client, was next to me up front, and then she was on the other side, and we were in front of a mirror, and I could see her. And all of a sudden she lit up. And did she keep up with everything we did not exactly did she try? She tried, and that would be my message, is it’s never too late. No matter how far down that hole you think you are, there’s a way to climb out. Seek the help of the people that you can count on, kind of a reward the things that sound good to you. Like my client is a therapist and their friends through their through her therapy techniques, she was able to not convince but talk her into, you know, just give it a try. Just give it a try. And so it was her talking to my girlfriend that helped, that she knew intuitively she needed help. She talked to somebody about it, that somebody took her to the right place to get a start. Am I the end all? Of course not. There’s lots of other things that you know, people and things to help her, but she’s now on a road, and it’s like anything. I mean, I don’t care if you’re an actor and learning a script, a singer, you know, learning your dance routines, or what field you have to rehearse and practice and work your way up to something, it doesn’t just happen overnight. Nothing happens overnight. So I feel like sometimes those shows, like the biggest loser that was on for a while are really a false sense of how quickly you can lose weight or change a lifestyle of bad habits to good habits, because it’s really a competition, and you’re working with these coaches that are drilling you, and it’s not a healthy way to you want to have sustainability, and that’s not the way to go about it, but the small steps. And if you’re willing to give it time, to see the changes, to feel the changes, then you’re going to see a different kind of life, and you’re going to be on a different road to longevity, and it’s going to help her also through the stressful times, like I’m someone who’s gone through a really contentious divorce. So I understand that loss, I understand that stress. I understand I took the opposite. I didn’t gain the weight, I lost the weight, and it just didn’t look or feel healthy, because I had adrenal fatigue, because I was living on adrenaline, and which is what happens when you’re in the fight or flight mode, as we know. But I sought help, you know. Plus I had some skills behind me, and I went back to school to study nutrition, so that helped me as well to get out of the rut of depression. So just start find the people that can help you.

 

Manon Bolliger  13:51

And how do you like you know, there’s things that some people I was thinking, I talked to my sister, and she gets up early in the morning to do one thing or another, right? She’s so like ambitious, and she’s in her 60s, and, you know, she’s doing all these things. And I was, how do you get the energy or the how do you create the habit where you don’t have to think anymore, but you just do it, you know, yeah, once you, I mean, you’re right, after a while you get you feel better, so then you want it right. It’s like, you know, like with eating proper food, you know, and real food, and, you know, cooking at home, I mean, like, I could never, I’ve been raised that way. That’s how I do things. I could never eat junk. If you put it in front of me, it just would be disgusting to me, right? So it would be no effort for me to eat well, right? So that’s like, that’s how I’ve been trained. Whereas, for example, you know, exercise. I’m like, Ah, you know, I just really, you know, so what do you do to people like that?

 

Debi Carlin Boyle  15:11

I have a saying. So, yeah, Dan, I have people that are the opposite. So I have people that can’t get the food thing down, but love to move, and it’s really difficult to move if you’re, you know, if you’re not eating, well, you like, the movement isn’t going to do it, you know, like abs are made in the kitchen, not in the classroom, per se. So you have to kind of work hand in hand with both. So I have a saying, especially for those people that I, you know, deal with their food issues. There’s this thing called crowding out. And it’s crowding out the bad stuff and slowly but surely putting in the good stuff. So this works with diet in that you can find substitutions on a healthy choice, a non processed choice, for just about any craving, any types of foods that you like. There are ways to work around it, but you got to crowd out slowly but surely. So you’re starting to eat more for your plate becomes a bigger portion of fresh things and a less portion of the junk that you’re used to, until you crowd it right off the plate.

 

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Debi Carlin Boyle  17:40

With exercise, I always say to people, let’s find something you like, what and sometimes, and you can see this with children, because I have a four year old granddaughter, so I’m watching it all over again. But they try a lot of things when they’re young. They tried lots of like my granddaughter swim, she does gymnastics, she does ballet, she’s sort of all she does yoga, she’s sort of all over the place. But where we see that she’s excelling is ballet and gymnastics. So dance and gymnastics kind of go hand in hand, and we see her light up in that and that’s probably where she’s going to funnel into. It’s no different when you’re older and you feel that you’re sedentary and you’re not really moving as much as you think you should or would like I suggest, just because your friend is going for a walk every day doesn’t mean that you want to go for a walk every day. So my suggestion is to try different things. And it is usually. It could be a dance class, you know, taking a swing class, a salsa class. It could be hiking. It could be cycling, if you don’t like outdoor cycling, it could be indoor cycling, which I’ve been teaching for 30 years now. And going on 30 years will be 2026 so 29 years. And, you know, and I have people that are Die Hard site indoor cyclists, and then I have people that won’t touch indoor cycling because they love outdoor cycling. And there’s tennis. I’ve been a tennis enthusiast since college, and I make sure I play at least once a week. Did I know I was gonna like it? Had no idea until I picked up a racket. No idea. Now the new thing pickleball, you know, so one of my best friends gets up early every morning and she swims, you cannot going to get me near a pool at 5am No way. No how. I don’t like cold things. I take hot yoga. That’s fine, you know, I’m not, and I’m maybe do a cold plunge every but I’m not going to stay in cold water. I just swimming early in the morning is not for me, but it’s for her. So. So and it works, and it’s creating this longevity for her. It’s going hand in hand with the other healthy things that she does in her lifestyle. So just like a toddler, would I say you gotta, you gotta try something like, what is it that you find yourself liking to do? What kind of sparks you?

 

Manon Bolliger  20:20

No, I think I took movement for granted, because I moved so much, you know, at work, I was constantly going room to room to room, you know, and then it was just natural to move. And then not moving has become kind of natural too, because now I’m reading more. I’m, you know, finishing up books. I’m what I’m called to do, and I don’t have issues or pain from it. You know, I watch carefully whether I am going to get up and go, Oh, you know, like that old age. I’m in my mid 60s, but, you know, it hasn’t been a problem, but I can see that it’s going to be interesting to find something that I really and I think the key, I think you’ve said it, it’s something that, as a toddler, I would love, or, you know what I would love to do. And probably that’s dancing. I mean, I used to to dance, you know, when I was cooking, right? I used to put music on. And because I love cooking, and I, you know, and I do everything from scratch, so it takes time. And so, you know that, why not put music and dance? And that would be natural movement that I wouldn’t notice probably,

 

Debi Carlin Boyle  21:44

I think it’s the you burn calories, and yeah.

 

Manon Bolliger  21:49

Yeah, you move your lymph moves all the things that you know that that are necessary. But I just it’s interesting. I see people who are scheduled, and I hate schedules. I just, you know, now that I’m retired, I don’t want any schedules. I just don’t want anything that has to be on a Tuesday or has to be on, so I think you know that two year old crisis.

 

Debi Carlin Boyle  22:17

Yeah, but you still can say to yourself, and this isn’t really scheduling, it’s more lifestyle every day. I’m gonna break a little sweat. And whatever that may be, whether it’s dancing in the kitchen or the living room or taking a walk with a friend, or, you know, any of the other things that I suggested which there’s millions more, but just a commitment to something, as opposed to scheduling. This is what I’m going to do this day at this time, but commit to the movement. Because movement is so you know, it’s so many it just creates, you know, it gets everything flowing. Because, you know, being in my now I’m in my late 60s, but being of a certain age, as as we start to age, especially over 45-50 everything slows down, including our heart rate. When your heart rate slows down, it slows other systems in your body down, including your digestive tract. So what you’re trying to do is stimulate and you know, that’s what you do, but you’re trying to stimulate your blood flow to all of your organs so everything can do its job properly, and that we can detox. You know, the detoxification we go through when we sleep at night, the reset can happen properly, and all the toxins leave us, and that way we don’t become an inflammation, you know, vehicle for for disease, because that’s where it starts. So getting the movement in would be the commitment without the schedule. If that makes sense, does that make sense?

 

Manon Bolliger  24:02

I think also focusing, like you said, on on something you like, you know, I love, I love the visual, if I was a toddler…

 

Debi Carlin Boyle  24:10

Yeah, because we throw them into things, and they tell us. And that’s kind of the, you know, it could be rock climbing, for all you know, but it’s something, it’s, you know, just, it’s one of those things that, if you know, it could be kickboxing. I see we do for Parkinson’s at one of the studios I work at. It’s called kick. It’s called boxing for Parkinson’s, I think, but, or something like that. It’s actually a national, known organization where they train trainers to work with Parkinson’s patients who come in in groups and they do like a 45 minute kickboxing class. A box, well, boxing and kickboxing, because the movement is so important in disease. And these are people that may have not moved their whole lives. Are loving it. They love it. They have a sense of community. They’re moving so they’re feeling better. And it’s fun, you know, if there’s a lot of joy in it, so, you know, and would they have ever thought of that? Probably not, but, yeah.

 

Manon Bolliger  24:16

They find out. And I think it’s, it’s also just be becoming conscious, asking the question, you know, because most of the sports I did, it was for my children, you know. So I, I learned to skate, I learned to ski, you know, I’ve done all these activities for their good, right? Right now, they’re, you know, they’re adults, and they have their own children, and it’s like, you know, I don’t know, there’s none of those that really, you know, appeal to me, like, you know.

 

Debi Carlin Boyle  25:58

Appeals to you, yeah. I mean, I got on. I mean, I love to dance, but I ended up being doing 10 years of The Nutcracker and getting into ballet. And because my daughters were classically trained ballerinas, and like you, I was waiting around all the time. So they offered me a job at the dance studio. And I have a whole other story, but I have a degree in theater, so I taught, I taught, taught the drama section at the performing arts studio to kids and adults for about 10 years, and when I was working there, I ended up in the Nutcracker. So I learned how to dance, and I didn’t realize I’d like it so much, and I did. I wasn’t trained like my kids were trained because they started two years old. But, you know, it was like that you go where your kids are, like you what I did, and it felt great, you know, felt great to be on, be on a big, main stage with them, yeah, and that cracker was, you know, those memories will and and videos will never leave so but as an adult, you, you know, you come into your own, and you find what, what suits you, what works for you. I tried everything from step classes to cardio kickboxing, the typo stuff, the aerobic stuff, I was used to go to Jane Fonda studio in Los Angeles. So I used to go to Jane Fonda studio and I tried that. That wasn’t really exactly my cup of tea, but I tried it. And then I think a cardio kickboxing and indoor cycling is what really stuck with me, and I ended up becoming the first year I did cycle classes, I became an instructor, and I’ve never stopped. I’ve worked probably 15 to 20 studios around the city, so in different areas that I moved and privately taught cycle classes. Continue to do it during the pandemic, to those that bought bikes at home. And I’m on an app called turbo fit, where people can log on and take a class with me anytime they want. They’re all archived so but I found this, I don’t know. It was like the endorphin high. You know, it was like, Whoa, I can do this. And it’s a bit of dance, because you do it to music. So it’s a bit of dance, along with a bit of, you know, not a bit, but a lot of cycling. You know, those techniques put together are fun. You know, it’s just fun to me. And then my oldest daughter, who is a classically trained ballerina, she segued in her late 20s to becoming a yoga teacher, because yoga is part of a ballet. It’s a ballerinas background, and hot yoga is her specialty, and she teaches teachers to be teachers, and she enticed me to start around three and a half years ago, to come to the studio that she works at and start taking hot yoga. And I thought, I hate this, oh, like this. I’m not staying in here. But what it did for me was it got me closer to my adult daughter. It grew on me, and now I take four hot yoga classes a week, and I, I love it, creating a different kind of longevity, because I’m putting my body into, um, hormesis, you know, that or not, not hormesis, but that state where that, you know, like, what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger, kind of state, right? And the kind 120 degree yoga class could really get to you, but it’s making me stronger, and I love it, yeah, so I encourage you.

 

Manon Bolliger  29:52

Yes, yes, I think I will. We’re different in our choices. For sure, I’d rather sweat it. Same thing, but that’s what it is, right?

 

Debi Carlin Boyle  30:04

Yeah, you just don’t know. I remember when kids would drop out of ballet to go be a baseball player. Soccer. Soccer was a big thing, and that worked for them, and some and some continued to play and get scholarships in college. And, you know, you find your thing, your place.

 

Manon Bolliger  30:26

And there’s so many choices. I mean, that’s the bottom line, right?

 

Debi Carlin Boyle  30:28

It is, there are, and you just have to, it’s just, I mean, taking the initial step to research and then go do it, grab a friend. You know, statistically, we’re more likely to stick with something somebody else living a lifestyle, diet change, if you do it with a friend.

 

Manon Bolliger  30:48

Sure, of course, of course.

 

Debi Carlin Boyle  30:49

As long as you have like a community, whether it be your husband, your wife, your kid, your neighbor, you know, just find somebody who is like minded that would want to do it with you.

 

Manon Bolliger  31:03

Debbie, our time is already up, but I just want to give you, like a closing minute if you want to. Or how do people reach you or watch your videos? Now, maybe you could share that again to make sure.

 

Debi Carlin Boyle  31:16

Oh, yeah, I’d love to. So I have a website. It’s called balanced life. Balanced with an ED life one word with Debi, or my website, is balancedlifebydebi, spelled D, E, B, I dot com and there will take you everywhere. It will one. There’s a way to get in touch with me, because I do do a little consultation. So it will say, Click here for free consultation for health coaching or physical training, whatever it is that you you know I do. I work on Zoom, I work in person. I can work with you anywhere in the world you want. So there’s that’s the way to reach me. It will take you to my YouTube channel, which is all of my podcasts on health and wellness and my amazing guests are archived there. And it will also take you to my Instagram page and my Facebook page and those what for March, which aren’t up yet. I’ve been filming content that you can do for free in easy to do workouts in your own living room or space with little to no weight, and that could get you moving too. There you go. You know, I’m putting those up. I’m just editing those right now. We film once a week for the content for that week, and we’re launching at the beginning of March. So…

 

Manon Bolliger  32:46

Okay, well, thank you very much for sharing that and, yeah, look forward to sharing our interview.

 

Debi Carlin Boyle  32:52

Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it. I do so much. Thank you.

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