parents, not my mom, not so much. And her mo for me was ignored, it’ll go away. And when I would tell her that she and I noticed that it wasn’t going away, it was actually getting bigger, because what you ignore persists and grows, right? So for me, my emotions I, I really took to music. And I was able to express my emotions, which I couldn’t verbalize through music. So I really excelled at that. And in tandem with that, and when I was in second grade, my dad threw his back out, had to have back surgery, went to the hospital had that picked up a hospital acquired infection in the mid 1960s, which back then, was considered a death sentence because they didn’t have the modern day equipment, or also the medications, the antibiotics that would assist that. My dad this was 1966 was on his deathbed pretty much he did recover. He was in the hospital for over two months, he came home, and things were fine for four years until 1970. When it seemed like when his immune system would get compromised, this whole sequela that happened for two months would re occur. So he would go back in the hospital have to have surgery, have abscesses through his abdomen have to you know, be on his deathbed. So that happened starting in 1974, four separate times. So my childhood was like this emotional roller coaster, because I didn’t know whether or not my father was going to make it out of the hospital or if he would, you know, die. And I couldn’t feel and so flash forward to 1975 the fourth time that this was happening, my mom was at her wit’s end. You know, she I don’t know how she survived what she survived, but it was very challenging. So she was reading about alternative healing modalities because what they had offered my father was in 1975, the CAT scanner first got developed so they put my dad under the CAT scanner, and they found where his problem was stemming from was where he had his original back surgery in 1966. So their solution was that he would have to have an extensive back surgery called a spinal fusion, which in 1975 was in its neophyte stages of development, which came with lots of risks, he could die, you can be parallelized, you may get better, you may not get better. My mom didn’t want to have anything to do with that. So she started looking for other answers. And I crack up when I when I talk about this, because, you know, 1975, there was no internet. There was no Google search with Google nothing. We had the National Enquirer. Yeah, so that’s where a lot of lay people would read and get information. So in the National Enquirer, my mom found this article that was written, he was being it was a feature article about this Reverend Alex Holmes from Carroll, Michigan who had the ability of doing laying on of hands and healing. He’s been doing this type of work since the 1950s. And he’s been featured because he assisted his brother from healing from leukemia. So my mom was all over this, like, you know, butter on bread, my dad, not so much because my dad was like, only if the surgeon you know, the biggest skeptic. So it just so happened at this time of this discussion. My dad was in the hospital being worked up, my mom marched down to the nurse’s station where the surgeon my dad surgeon was sitting, and he was writing notes and my mom announced to the surgeon I’m thinking about having a spiritual healer come in to assist my husband. Would that be okay? Surgeon thriving, looks up doesn’t miss a beat said sure that would be fine. So my mom got the blessing for the surgeon went back, share that information with my dad. My dad was on board, not 10 minutes went by, man and and what had happened was my mom went back out to the desk, same doctor, same surgeon sitting there, made the announcement to the surgeon say my husband agreed to have the spiritual practitioner come into a system. The surgeon stopped what he was doing looked up at her What are you talking about? I never agreed to that. So this is how the universe was starting to set this up. A month later. Of course, my mom didn’t share that piece of information with my father. A month later, Reverend Holmes came from Carroll, Michigan, to Connecticut where I grew up, where my other siblings, I have a brother and two sisters and my two grandmother’s were there. And, you know, Reverend Holmes was there. My dad was barefoot. And I don’t know how Reverend Holmes knew that my dad had a lengthy leg length discrepancy, there was like a one inch gap. If you put you know his feet up against the book, you could see that my dad, you know, was was barefoot, he didn’t have his slippers or anything that had a lift there. But somehow the Minister knew this. So he had my dad lift both his legs while he was sitting in of course, there was a one inch gap, had him lower his legs started praying over my father touched his solar plexus and the Crown Chakra said some scripture quotes, not two or three minutes went by and he said, Okay, put both of your feet up, or both your legs up. And they were both the same length. In that moment, my life changed forever. I knew that it was my mission in my lifetime to bridge the physical with the spiritual, and the invisible with the visible. And it was my job to go into health care to do that. So that’s how I became where I’m at. Now, my father had another half an hour of work done with the minister. My father also was sobbing like a baby, because remember, he was the biggest skeptic on Earth, right? I needed to have witnessed that something was actually happening. After a half an hour more with the minister, he was instructed to lie down and rest because as we know, and we do massive energy work. Everything’s getting rewired and re formulated, he slept for over 24 hours. He went back a month later to the CAT scanner, found no evidence of the infection, never had to have the surgery, never had to revisit that problem ever again in his lifetime. And he passed away about 12 years ago at the age of 80

 

Manon Bolliger  09:26

Wow, that’s quite the story.

 

Dr Dolores Fazzino  09:29

It’s the story and that’s where that’s where on that.

 

Manon Bolliger  09:36

So it is this. I mean, we’re in the era of this thing, this, timing where, you know, we can see that this biological or purely physical approach goes to a point, right, but it doesn’t go beyond that point. Right. And I think It’s not this or that it can be mixed. It’s you have to you have to follow that the patient and a little bit their comfort zone or like your mom did I kind of

 

Dr Dolores Fazzino  10:13

you know, man, and it’s really interesting because I think you and I both could agree, it’s like, the current medical model really focuses on, you know, giving a pill procedure, and constantly doing that. Whereas I think the newer medical model needs to be like this big pie in the middle has health and wellness, and every slice of that pie is a different modality inclusive of Western medicine, because I feel that there’s so many different possibilities and choices. But yet everybody’s so uniquely different, you know, we could have the same physical problem, okay, on the top, the tip of the iceberg, but everybody’s way of getting there through their emotions, their beliefs, their connectedness to the cells is so different, that Western medicine does a huge disservice, I feel by thinking that everybody’s created it the same way. And they treat it that way. And that’s not so.

 

Manon Bolliger  11:11

Yeah, no, I would concur. Yeah, it’s been, I mean, I’ve seen that now. I’ve been in practice 30 years, until I had to give up my license for political reasons. Right, you know, because I did not. Because, well, because I’m an honest person, really, because I believe in, you know, you call a spade a spade. Yeah. And if you’re not to do any harm, you can’t start doing harm for no reason. Okay, you know, but I so agree. And I I’m though this has been very difficult few years, it’s been, I feel very much like what you’re explaining, it’s, it’s, we’re really on the precipice of many more people knowing that there’s more. Yeah. You know, and I had, like, a tagline in my office is for people who know, there’s more that was my tagline. You know, and I’m thinking, Yeah, this is the time, then no one knew what I was talking about a very few. I mean, there were some that had done, you know, but, but a lot of people like, okay, whatever, that’s cute, you know, but it’s the truth now, right? It’s, oh, it is

 

Dr Dolores Fazzino  12:25

in you know, I think people are waking up. It’s about the self awareness part. Yeah, it’s like, you know, I know for me, I tell people, once you wake up, you can’t go back to sleeping. Right? Right. It’s like, you just can’t. So I think, you know, there’s been a lot of people, like, probably you and I who’ve been awake for a while. The next wave is here. And I think it’s, you know, during COVID, that awakened a lot of people. So it’s like, people who are awake, are awakening and still asleep. And there’s always going to be people who are still asleep. And that’s just the way it is. And, you know, for whatever reason, you know, whatever their souls mission is, maybe they need to be asleep. Who knows. But, you know, I feel that we’re in a time where it’s about people taking their power back, learning how to trust their intuition, which we’ve been told is baloney, or quackery, which is actually our sovereign, right as a human being, okay? And to learn how to trust that no matter what’s going on, and not give your power away to other things outside of yourself inclusive of Western medicine are the people in the white coats, and I could say this, because I’m Western medicine trained, and I bridge the both of both worlds. And, you know, I feel that Western medicine has a tendency to hide behind evidence based, which is a bunch of malarkey. Because I have a doctorate in nursing, I did clinical research, and I know about, you know, statistics and how they’re manipulated and stuff. I remember having a very interesting conversation with an anesthesia colleague of mine, probably about 10 years ago, he said, you know, Doc, Dolores, the stuff that you practice is an evidence base. And I said, Well, you know what, let’s have a conversation about evidence based medicine. You know, help me understand why is it big pharma comes out with this new drug and rushed through FDA approval? It’s on the market for like two years, and then it’s taken off with a huge class action lawsuit for all the bad things it does. As soon as that the evidence based medicine that you’re talking about. He didn’t know how to respond and I said, You know what? I’ve done clinical research. I have a doctorate and I know statistics are manipulated all the time. And I said if one person has a Good result from what I do. That’s enough evidence based for me.

 

Manon Bolliger  15:05

Yeah. Well, that’s the thing is that if you’re, and that’s the truth is if people are getting better, they refer Well, and, you know, not everything works for everyone. That’s the truth. Right. But, but to I mean, I’ve looked at so many of the researchers, um, you know, you can say 50% More than 50% Yeah, but there’s like four people. You know, that’s like, you know, I mean, I don’t want to get into the, the so called research that happened with some of these so called vaccines, I mean, oh, my god, unbelievable to think that we would not have had access for 75 years, you know, that we couldn’t have seen the type of, yeah, I don’t know if you couldn’t even give it the word research. It’s just unbelievable what they do.

 

Dr Dolores Fazzino  15:57

It is interesting, too. And, you know, this was so weird, because I remember back in the 90s, when Fen Phen came out, remember that? Yeah. Okay, I had this visceral feeling like this gut feeling like this was a real bad thing. I just knew it. It was just like, and I just watched it on, unfold in pretty much, you know, become not a really good thing. I had the same visceral response when the vaccine came out. Yeah. And I just knew that, no, we can’t be doing this. And I know for me, it was a hard No, you’re not doing it. Yeah. And being in health care at the time. I got so much pushback. I’m still unvaccinated. And I will never be vaccinated. I will not.

 

Manon Bolliger  16:46

But did you have to step away from your? Nope,

 

Dr Dolores Fazzino  16:49

no, because in the United States, okay. What was interesting was this. I’m credentialed at different hospitals, they have like a board and in the United States, and I felt like I was in unchartered territory, because for 40 years, I had been doing this work. And I know that I have rights as a provider, and also as a human being. So I was in uncharted territory, especially when they were mandating XY and Z. So I call the civil rights attorney and I said, What are my rights?

 

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Dr Dolores Fazzino  18:34

Yeah, they said because the institution’s some of them are sending out a document, you know, like a declination that, you know, it could be either for religion, or medical, and nothing further. But they were asking for all this other information. And she said, by law, they cannot do that they can only you know, have give you one sheet to check a box. And that’s it. By law, they can ask any other information because that is called when you want to call it. There’s a word for it. I can’t even remember. It’s out of their domain. Well, yeah, it’s out there. Right. And so the thing is, it’s actually discrimination. She said, and they have a lawsuit. I said, that’s all the information I need. Wow. Yeah. So that’s how I got around it. And I would tell him, I said, it’s really none of your concern is, you know, religious, for religious beliefs. And the thing is, is like, it’s like, So are you the gatekeeper of who’s got and who’s not? Yeah, seriously. So it really got to be pretty ugly. In fact, one hospital had like a 25 page declination form, and I decided you know what? We’re done here. It was like ending a 30 year bad marriage. Yeah. And it was so liberating after I said, I’m done. Oh, wow. Knocked away. So it’s just like an all these other doors was open. So I don’t know.

 

Manon Bolliger  20:01

No, I do agree. You know, I mean, having also had some special ventures with, you know, diseases and things coming out of the other side and seeing the world, you know, very differently or more actually confirming my intuition. It’s not.

 

Dr Dolores Fazzino  20:23

But you know what, you know what, you know? Yeah, you

 

Manon Bolliger  20:28

know exactly, exactly. But in Canada, we didn’t have the right to have no doctors were allowed to, to give any reasons why you cannot. No GS. Who did? We’re all actually pursuit legally, they will win. We will all win this, because it’s a crime. What has happened? Yeah. But, yeah, Liberty infringement. Absolutely. Completely out. But at this time, we don’t know what kind of government we have. It may not be news

 

Dr Dolores Fazzino  20:59

for you. We don’t know what kind of government we have here, either. It’s a universal thing.

 

Manon Bolliger  21:10

Well, you know, I was thinking when cloud Klaus Schwab was so happy to say how he’s infiltrated the Canadian government and have for his young leaders. It’s like, Oh, my God. Okay. Tell me no more, you know, but yeah, so we’re not really run by people we’ve elected. That’s for sure. You know, but I wanted to

 

Dr Dolores Fazzino  21:31

add, either let me tell you,

 

Manon Bolliger  21:33

I know, I’ve been following. You know, it’s amazing in the States, though, it’s, maybe because there are actually two parties that appear to be fighting against each other. And some people believe that it’s really, you know, one or the other, rather than the person, the human being, you know, that speaking. Yeah, a lot more things come out. There’s more whistleblowers. There’s more like in Canada, it’s as if we’re like, one thing, and there’s our little politicians. I mean, they try, but they don’t really try. You know, there’s really very little missions. Anyway, okay, let’s turn this round, because part of this is practitioners need to, you know, follow this here, this regain their dignity, their sense of empowerment, they’re their own right. And a lot of them have, you know, made choices that based on Oh, its authority. And, you know, of course, they know what they’re doing the CDC, and they would never lie to us on our governments would never lie. You know, big, big surprise, they’re gonna get surprise. But I’m still more concerned about the patients, you know, the ones who couldn’t have as easily had access to this, you know, information and took it because they were, you know, forced to, or they would lose their jobs or whatever.

 

Dr Dolores Fazzino  23:12

I think a lot of times it was out of fear. They responded out of fear.

 

Manon Bolliger  23:16

Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, if you’re, like, 80% of Canadians live, what, how do you say this? Two weeks at a time, paycheck to paycheck?

 

Dr Dolores Fazzino  23:26

So it’s like that in the United States, too. Yeah. Okay. So we

 

Manon Bolliger  23:29

share good things in common. But, you know, so, like, you can say that they had a choice, they could have done it differently, but unless it was on mass, and people stood together and realized that if it happens to one, it happens to all, you know, it’s very hard in that type of pressure. It’s an abusive relationship. Basically, you you know, it’s very hard to stand up and do that difference. There are people who did and obviously, you know, that’s wonderful, but a lot of people got got caught in this and what I want to talk about is because one of the things when I read a little bit more about you and what you’ve seen in your past people who I mean people have taken five shots I don’t know I don’t even know what I think is possible for them. But those who did the the minimum the two shots and that and woke up or realized that there’s a you know, there’s a problem and, and we know the doses are different. We know that they experimented on that was part of the trial, stage three to find out. You know, how people responded to different dosages. If you follow most of the doctors, they who have researched this, it sounds like some were truly placebo. But The others, you know, what do you think about the statement that people aren’t ticking time bombs, like that anyone who’s taken it, unless they got placebo is bound to a at least a very accelerated decelerating lifespan, you know, and then there’s all those that died, you know, as predicted, right? Yeah. Well, you

 

Dr Dolores Fazzino  25:27

know, that’s an interesting, it’s an interesting what you’re sharing is very interesting, because I know, I’ve witnessed a bunch of stuff, it seems like those who have taken the vaccine, that were immunocompromised, if they were stable in there, or a remission, it took them out of remission, and it created, you know, they got out of remission, and then they ended up, you know, getting their disease and dying. I’ve also noticed that there is people of all ages just dropping dead from cardiac stuff. Yes, I’ve also noticed that, you know, and even personally, from my family, that we had a person who was in remission from cancer, took the two vaccines, and a year later, he’s dead. So, you know, of course, you know, I have my thoughts on that. And, you know, I even have told this person, you know, a year before you pass that he was getting ready to take the booster, and I said, you may want to rethink that. And he said, What, are you getting political on me? I said, No, I just know, a lot of things that I know, a lot of stuff. So, you know, that was the whole mentality. You know, some people were just doing it because it was the, you know, I think I mean, in the biggest thing that’s so important is that this is where people need to trust their gut, their intuition, you know, what, maybe it is the right thing for them to take. But if you’re aligned with that, as a sole source, it’s making the right choice for you, without having the feedback or the being distracted by the external, as you need to do XY and Z. Okay, being put upon, you know, trust. You know, because we, we, as human beings are wired to heal, okay, we have that healing capability within ourselves. What happens sometimes is that we distract ourselves from that voice, okay? By information, or how people, you go to the doctors, they have their idea, and they project their fears and feelings onto you. Of what you could have, and you know, maybe not have, and guess what, you don’t have it, but you start believing that you start creating it for yourself. So, here’s that dance that happens to and I’ve been witness to that personally. And I basically had to say to one doctor, I said, You got to stop this. Because you’re creating, you’re creating things for people that they don’t even have.

 

Manon Bolliger  28:15

Yeah, I mean, it’s, it’s a known phenomena, right? There’s no SIBO effect, right? Like, you know, you can absolutely create things. But what when I’m wondering, with all the information that’s pouring out, I mean, if you’re on whatever, Twitter x now or whatever, like, it’s just files after files, and you’re like, Oh, my goodness, it’s overwhelming.

 

Dr Dolores Fazzino  28:38

I think as time goes on, you’re gonna see more and more stuff being called to the surface and happening. Yeah, I know. So, for me, I think the biggest concern was, they really were people. They were telling people, if you’re immunocompromised, you need to get it. Yeah. And I think that was the worst thing they could have done. Because if you’re immunocompromised, you don’t want to be taking that because it’ll segue you and it will tip you over into being you know, it’ll accelerate whatever’s going on. If you were on the cusp of getting something you it was gonna throw you into it.

 

Manon Bolliger  29:14

Yeah, I agree. I mean, that’s the turbo cancers and all the degenerative disease, but what I’m asking more from you is, what is your feeling? A person who, you know, they didn’t connect to their intuition, or they had another voice that they followed instead, but they’ve done it now. And now they’re starting to realize that it was an error, you know, so. So there’s a lot of panics, there’s suicides, there’s all kinds of things happening, what I’m looking for, and I know there’s doctors and you know, have different formulas that help the immune system and all that but I’m looking from the energetic spiritual, you know, it means Not to be physical thing they need to do. But what’s the? I feel like? It’s not hopeless? You know, I don’t think

 

Dr Dolores Fazzino  30:08

it is. I don’t think it is either. I feel and I think I know where you’re going with this. It’s like, I feel there’s a lot that people could do to support and help themselves. So they don’t go down. I call the rabbit hole of it being a bad thing. Right? Because it’s fear. You know, it’s basically what it is. It’s just like, they just go down the whole rabbit hole of being in fear. Yeah. And, you know, we know the acronym fear – False Evidence Appearing Real. It’s not it may not be that. Yeah, with the law of attraction, whatever you’re focusing on, you’re going to create, so there’s, it’s a very thin line. Yeah. So where are they? Are they living in fear? Or are they living in love and appreciation? Okay, from a spiritual component. Fear is a very low vibrating frequency, whereas love and appreciation is higher vibrating. Okay. Anything they could do energetically to raise their frequency. Right. Okay. So it’s not a match. It’s a mismatch. It’ll be ships crossing passing in the night, right? Yeah. So anything they could do? You know, yeah. Take care of your physical body, feed it, nourish it, water it. You know, listen to your body. Go where it’s directing you to because your body will tell you what you need next. Yeah. And, you know, it’s like learning how to have a relationship with your body. And your

 

Manon Bolliger  31:50

Yeah, no. And maybe on the emotional level, to me, what comes to me is, because some people say you have to ask forgiveness. No, no, you, it’s you can basically say, I made the decision, I honor that I made the decision with what I knew at the time. And now it’s done. And I’m, I’m, you know, like, I forgive myself, if you’re fighting against yourself, whatever.

 

Dr Dolores Fazzino  32:18

I think moving on. You just nailed it. It’s just like, the only person you need to forgive is yourself. Yeah. You know, and having some mercy. You know, because we are the hardest on ourselves. Exactly. You know, we have a tendency to beat ourselves up. What are you saying to yourself? Yeah, those things are huge. You know, if we look at the work of Dr. Massaro Emoto. Remember him, he was the one that used to label water. And he passed away I think almost 10 years ago. Awesome, man. And if our human body is at least 75% Water, yeah. And we’re gonna labeling this vessel, you know, unworthy, you know, idiot, whatever. What is that doing to your body? What is it doing to the water? You know, it’s changing it. So that we need to be kinder to ourselves? Yes. No, we need to learn how to become our own best friend. Because, believe it or not, the longest relationship you’re gonna have in your life is the one you have with yourself. Yeah, you know, so how’s it going? Are you treating it? And loving it and nurturing it? And spending time with it and honoring it? Probably not. And it’s time to start doing that.

 

Manon Bolliger  33:43

Yeah. No, and I think I’m so glad you stated that it’s sort of been my, my feeling, you know, when you when people start waking up, and now you realize they have terror in their eyes, it’s like, and they listen to well meaning people who have a sort of a biological approach to medicine, you know, even a supplement approach, say take this, I mean, sure, maybe anti inflammatories will help maybe, you know, things to eat up the Nano chemist eat up the spike, maybe, like, all these things are, but there it has to be part of the bigger program of helping yourself and saying, my body is made to heal. This little bio weapon attempt is not going to work, you know, and I am stronger. I am bigger than this, you know, and I think yeah, I feel I feel much more optimistic. I was. I was myself terrified at all the people I knew that took it, including family members and that and I, you know, I cried so hard for you just to think what could happen, and then I realized I’ve got to stop that. Is it like everyone has their destiny? And everyone can take charge at any

 

Dr Dolores Fazzino  35:06

point? Absolutely. Yeah. And you know what, and it’s not my job to fix it. Exactly, exactly. Yeah, that’s the other one. I have to I have to honor their choices and support them in any way they choose. Yet, I can’t fix it for them. Yes. Like they need to, you know, I could give them tools. But they need to take that step further and make it their own and do it for themselves, because they will never, you know, it’ll be so empowering for them to have that experience. And I don’t want to rob them of that experience. Yes.

 

Manon Bolliger  35:45

So of your time is up. Is there something else that you would like to share? I mean, we can’t we ended up with this, it is the subject of the day that

 

Dr Dolores Fazzino  35:55

it is a subject of the day. You know, I think what I really want to say is this, you know, we’re all on a journey. It’s not a destination, and we are in control. We have to start believing that and knowing that, and it’s our innate right to have perfect health and wellness. And it may, you may get to it through different venues than what we’ve been told is possible. So I feel that people could heal. You know, I call you know, my tagline is healing in ways you never thought possible. So when you’re open to possibilities, I think that’s where the magic happens.

 

Manon Bolliger  36:44

Well, thank you very much for all of your wisdom, your years of experience of I really appreciate it. Thank you Maura.

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