had. And so, from there, I continued learning in my personal time and things like that. And then I really had a strong awakening to my intuition, when I started having some really serious health problems, which I think is also the case for a lot of people. It’s that challenge that causes us to start looking at things a little bit differently. And it was intuition, it was energy healing that actually led me to solutions. I had sought traditional treatments, you know, Western medicine, and I was always dismissed as you know, it’s all in your head. And because we couldn’t come up with a reason for it and that kind of thing. And so, it was it was energy healing that started to help my symptoms get better. And so, I started exploring it even further and even more deeply. And that’s when I really started activating my intuition and understanding it better. It was always there in the background, but it was something that I didn’t have language to put to it. And I didn’t really get that other people weren’t necessarily having those experiences. So, when I studied it more and learned about it more, I started getting it like, Oh, I’m actually hearing my guides speak to me. I’m not just having random ideas here that come out of nowhere and, you know, I can actually feel other people’s pain and emotions in my body. I always identified as an empath first and so I started awakening to all my intuitive abilities and that’s when I opened a healing practice and I primarily did hands on healing and then I integrated coaching into that to where I would, you know, get a read on their body where different imbalances were and I kind of learned that my intuition was wired in a way to identify imbalance and then trace that imbalance back to its origin. That was kind of my gift. And it’s really funny because I explored this in different ways in my life before I knew what was happening, I got my degree in history, because I always loved history. And so, I learned, like these skills of analysis and tracing, you know, what caused these events and things like that. So, I started developing those skills in very traditional ways that I never would have thought led to where it did. But I worked in my practice for years, I did a lot of hands on one on ones, and then I taught as well. And then at some point, I actually lost my office because the building sold. And so, at that point, I was actually really struggling in my practice with myself, because I was really carrying a lot of weight for other people, energetically I, it was too much for me, and I was spending all my time working and then recovering from work. So, I was gonna take this as an opportunity to take a break and, you know, have a little hiatus for the first time in my life. And it didn’t actually work out that way. So yeah. And so about three months into this little break, I started having flashbacks of childhood trauma that I experienced. And that threw me into this really intense, dark night of the soul journey where I had me and my guides, and a couple of people around me that were also intuitive that I really had to just figure it out, I had to figure out how to release this trauma that I just didn’t even remember. I had signs of it. It made sense once I started having these flashbacks that it had happened. But it wasn’t something that it was still very shocking when it all came to the surface.

 

Manon Bolliger  06:58

Can you…without, you know, necessarily retriggering are reliving putting yourself in a position. But, you know, when you mentioned first you had signs or symptoms that were kind of discounted, because they didn’t fit into the paradigm. Which I mean, I totally understand that. You know, because if there isn’t a drug to fix it, there isn’t a problem, right? So, it’s a little bit, you know, I get that piece. But if you could sort of expand on what it was that you came with? And how, in this second phase with the trauma coming up, you know, what were signs so that people who might be listening to us going, you know, this is what’s actually happening to me, because I think there’s a moment in which you believe it, and then you when you shut up, and you say this can’t be what’s happening, I’m making it up, you know, so if you could kind of explore it a little bit more.

 

Kristen Blythe  08:07

So, I mean, that in a very real way, it was dreams that I had had throughout my whole life that were actually memories. So, I had had these dreams of the abuse that I knew I had, I remembered that I had those dreams, but I always just thought they were some messed up like metaphor or something like that. And then when I started having flashbacks, and it wasn’t just flashbacks that I was having my body was physically behaving not in my control at all. But it was physically behaving as if the trauma was occurring in that moment. So, it was as if I was transported back to that time, and my body was releasing and reacting to the trauma energy that it was carrying for decades. So, the dreams were one thing, but you know, I’ve always kind of been interested in the law of attraction. It’s something that I think we all are kind of, like, how do we manifest and how do we, you know, get the life we want. And I’d always been really dedicated to my own healing. And it seemed like no matter what I did, no matter how hard I worked on my personal healing, I was really dedicated to it. But there was so much in my life that was still out of balance, and I couldn’t figure out why. It was this, you know, mystery that I’m like, am I just being brought these people because I’m supposed to help them? Am I missing something about you know, the story and I was missing something about the story. So it was like, you know, I was at this point in my career where I thought, you know, if you’re in an office and you’ve got all the work cleaned off your desk, and you’re like all set, and then you don’t realize there’s this closet in the back that’s full of file folders that you haven’t looked at and didn’t even know the closet was there and so it was definitely that was an Aha, oh, that’s why all these toxic people are in my life. This is why I keep having narcissism show up in my reality, even though I really understand this. And I’ve tried to break that pattern. It’s because I’m still carrying that trauma, energy, and all the patterning from that, and in all the limiting beliefs that that I had developed through the trauma I experienced, and that I inherited through my ancestral lineage. Because…

 

Manon Bolliger  10:26

Okay, let me stop you right there. Let’s make that very concrete. Because I relate very much to what you’re saying. And I’ve heard many people explain their stories in a similar way. But I think to be able to express it. So, people go, Okay, this is what this is concrete, this is what this means, can we try and break down the last like, three sentences. So, when you say your body was reacting, still, like your mind had kind of figured it out in that sense what’s going on, but your body was still in a trauma response? What would be an example of that?

 

Kristen Blythe  11:12

Yeah, I mean, an example was when I would have a flashback, my body would actually contort, and move and tremor, as that energy was coming out. And one of the understandings that I came to, as I was working through this, and I was grateful and very lucky that I had my guides and my intuition to tell me, hey, guess what, this is what’s happening to you right now. Because if I hadn’t had that, it would have been even scarier than it already was. But I had also witnessed other people that I had worked with, in my practice, who had gone through similar abuse have the same reaction, and I had helped them through that. So, I had, you know, like, I had already seen it, and I knew the process, like, this is how we work through this. And this is how we clear this. And it’s funny, because I always felt really, you know, a lot of compassion for other people I had worked with, that had experienced this kind of trauma. And I would always think, Wow, thank God, that wasn’t me. And then it was, you know, and then I ended up on the other end of that, and it’s oddly enough, you know, now I’m almost grateful for I, you know, if I could go back, I definitely wouldn’t experience the abuse again, but I can see what happened and why I can see the reason for it, but because of the learning that came from it.

 

Manon Bolliger  12:41

Okay, so let’s go into that. So when you recognize so your body first of all had a recognition? And then you, you, you made an understanding something that came from this. So, what would be like, why would you have to go through that like that? What was the, you know, justification, so to speak.

 

Kristen Blythe  13:04

Yeah, yeah, I mean, it’s never, it’s never something that you want. And I would never want that for anyone else. But there’s always some light that comes out of it. There’s always something that’s part of your purpose part of your path. And, you know, I had gone through all this really deep, intense work on my personal experience. And then when I started reflecting back on it, I realized that I wasn’t the first in my ancestral lineage. I was the third generation that had experience this type of trauma. So, I realized this story didn’t start with me, this story started three generations back, at least, you know, if you want to go even further, you probably could with different patterning and other traumas that would create this kind of dynamic. But when I had that aha moment of, oh, this is actually ancestral. And I was born into a story that already existed. This isn’t just my story. This is an ancestral genetic ancestral story that I incarnated into, and I’m part of, and it’s been my job to heal this. And when I got that aha moment, my guides were like, ding, ding, ding, you’ve got it. Let’s tell you about the ancestral blueprint. Let’s tell you about what the work that you’ve been doing and all of these different exercises that you’ve been doing to release this stuff. And that’s kind of how I started to obviously in the aftermath of all of this difficult time start to frame it into something that could be applied.

 

Manon Bolliger  14:42

Right. Yeah, yeah. So, the experience itself like sounds like yours was quite guided.

 

Kristen Blythe  14:51

Yeah. It was.

 

Manon Bolliger  14:52

But it’s interesting that you know, the those who came to see you it was awesome. So, guidance, even if the guide was you, and you hadn’t experienced it, right. Like the fact that they still chose to be in connection with a source they felt it could hold the space. Or, you know, it’s just I find that fascinating to watch how, you know, how we choose our, our liberation’s, our moments.

 

Kristen Blythe  15:29

Absolutely. And that’s one of the things that I’ve learned too, is that I think in spirituality, there’s often this idea that you have to be spiritual in order to heal, or you have to have the certain understanding. And that’s one of the things that I really learned through this was that, you know, there are these prerequisites for healing, that I learned through this process that can be applied to anyone, regardless of what their understanding is. And it, you know, even if you’re not aware, and having this conversation with your guides, intuitively, you are guided into the right conditions and the right time and the right circumstance. And I certainly didn’t know, I was intuitive and connected with my guides. And I didn’t know when I left that office, the last day that I was walking straight into this intense trauma healing process.

 

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Manon Bolliger  17:30

Right.

 

Kristen Blythe  17:31

If I had known, I probably would have walked the other way. So, you know, find the things at the right time, the right resources at the right time and the right people. And that’s different for every person. But I think the big thing that I learned out of it is that our personal healing is not just about us, it’s about this other ancestral story and everything we experience started somewhere before us, even if it feels very personal. There’s a pattern there that created this in the first place. So yeah.

 

Manon Bolliger  18:06

So, give us an example. I mean, I can think of, in my case, an ancestral story, that I came to a conclusion finally, you know, and I can also see how that heals backwards. You know, to at least those that are still alive. You know, when somebody finishes the work, it’s as if it goes back, at least that’s my seeing of it that way. What’s your thought on that actually?

 

Kristen Blythe  18:37

Absolutely. Um, from my perspective, you know, as energy healing is my thing, so I look at it as energy. And the term that I was given for this ancestral dynamic energetically, is the ancestral blueprint. And this is a template that we all have that’s very unique to each of us. And this ancestral blueprint is an energetic template that anchors in all the patterning the programming, both ancestral blessings and ancestral burdens, which would be ancestral trauma, ancestral patterning programs, limiting beliefs, things like that, into our experience. And it also beyond just our genetic lineage, it also includes our soul lineage, if you believe in that kind of thing. But you know, in my experience I do I’ve worked a lot with that and it’s our soul gifts, our soul traumas, past life traumas, things like that, that combined with the genetic lineage that we incarnate into and all the different patterning that comes with that, that come together within each of us in each life. And this informs our entire experience and freeing ourselves from those patterns of the past is what lets us embody more of our soul self or more of our authentic true nature rather than repeating those past patterns. But to speak to what you were saying If this ancestral blueprint that we have is intrinsically connected to everyone else in our lineage, so when we do the healing within ourselves, that template of the healing, that alchemy that happens in us, is energetically offered on a higher level to everyone we’re connected to. So sometimes we can actually see that in our personal lives, if we’re still connected to our relatives, even if they don’t even know about the healing that we’ve been doing, we can see them start to make certain shifts. And this is, as a result of them accepting this healed template that we’ve created through our own healing. So that was another really big thing for me, because one of my wounds for a long time as a healer was being stuck in that fixer mode of, I need to fix the people, I need to, you know, be the one to correct this problem. And what I learned through this process is that we can only do our own healing ourselves, we can’t do it for anyone else. And the way we heal others is by healing ourselves and offering that template to those that we’re connected to on a higher level, and then it can work out and its own divine timing and all that kind of thing. So yes, you do see that. And I also consider ancestral healing, to be all healing. Because even if we do have traumas and experiences that are very personal, that maybe aren’t so heavily weighted towards the ancestral, it does affect our children, and our spouse or our partner, and whoever else will, we’re connected to, and we pass those beliefs and patterns and even the trauma energy down if we haven’t healed that to future generations. So that’s why the healing work is so important. Because it’s It stops with us when we do that healing.

 

Manon Bolliger  21:48

So do you find when people seek to work with you, that we’re all like, what’s the, again, generalized, because I don’t know what else to make it simpler. And I know, there’s exceptions and all that, but um, what do people…what do they say? What do they come to heal or free or liberate? Or what’s their, you know, what’s the problem? You know, what is it? What are they trying to resolve?

 

Kristen Blythe  22:20

Yeah, usually, they don’t actually know. They think that they know, but they don’t actually know. And it’s funny because people will seek out support when they’re having an issue in their life now. And the way that I do sessions with people is that I work with them to guide them to their own intuition and their own inner story, as opposed to me giving them that information, because it’s far more powerful. And we come to our own realizations. And we’re all capable of that we just sometimes need guidance and that kind of thing. And so, when people dive into this, and are guided and led, and they come to these realizations of, Oh, I’ve had this pattern my whole life, or you know, I’ve struggled with my self-esteem my whole life, because my mother said this thing to me, when I was five, that told me that I wasn’t worthy. And that created a trauma for me and a limiting belief that I’ve carried with me my whole life, and then resolving that is as simple as identifying it, and then giving permission to clear it. And that’s the method that I use for all of the different techniques that are applied. And it can it’s, I call it the Roesa method ROESA, and it stands for identify what’s real, the R what’s in your reality? What’s your experience, conscious and unconscious? O, is the origin? Where did it come from? E is what is the impact of or what is the experience that you’re having through that? So how is that affecting your experience? What is happening in your life because of that? The S is you’re looking at the getting hung up on the words. Well, the A, the A is you have to give permission, the S, you have to decide how you want to shift it. So, the shift, what’s the shift you want to make? So, you have to understand what exists, where it came from, how it’s affecting you and how you want to change it, and then you give permission and that can be applied to so many different healing modalities. Meditation, journaling, therapy, intuitive work, energy work, just living your life, you know, coming to different realizations. And so that’s the framework that I use, but then I kind of work with whatever the person’s leanings are in their own intuition, what they’re comfortable with what you know, if they’re really good at journaling, we’ll do that kind of thing. If they’re good at meditation, we’ll do that. But when people have these realizations, it’s just this aha moment. And when the energy clears of that everything shifts in their life immediately. There’s not this like process of having to work it out again. And then from there, they’re like, I’ve been in therapy for, like, 20 years. And I’ve done more in this one session that I have in traditional talk therapy. And that’s just so beautiful to me, because it’s actually not, it’s not speaking to me at all, it’s speaking to their ability to heal. That understanding, and that’s just beautiful. Beautiful to me. So yeah,

 

Manon Bolliger  25:36

Yeah, no, I mean, I’ve talked about instantaneous healing, because it’s really, it’s a made-up thing that we have to work on it. And, you know, all that it’s, like, I see that the magic of it is just like, we bring it to consciousness, you’re willing to see and able to release. And that’s it, you don’t have to, you know, we have this belief, you know, we have to work on it. And we just go through it, and it’s like, you know, I think the majority of things leave that way, you know, the body, I do a lot of physical therapy. But with patients do that, or I did anyways, I’m not in practice now. But that have all kinds of physical ailments. And the body may take a little longer to fix, you know, the Humpty Dumpty. But if you can capture this transition, the one like the way you explained it, so well, that is instantaneous. And that is like, the way I see it’s like the, it’s like it’s elicited the vital force in us and, you know, and then the energy takes over and the body knows how to heal. Like, we don’t have to worry about all these things. It’s on its way.

 

Kristen Blythe  27:01

Yeah. And I mean, I find that energy moves from least dense to most dense. So, we often have the shifts in that template first, and then we see the shifts in our emotions and our mental patterns and things like that. And then that filters down into our physical body, and then also our physical experience that we have. And people will often see the mental and emotional shifts first, because that’s the easiest to kind of shift. But for myself, I had all of the health issues that I had resolved after I got through the trauma clearing from my childhood, and that was really powerful for me, because I had what I thought was celiac disease for a long time. You know, I hadn’t eaten gluten for like 11 years. And I thought it was like, I’m just living with this, I have to live with this, and it’s fine. And then all of a sudden, I could eat it again. And I didn’t have any digestive problems anymore. After all this trauma was cleared. So, it had very real physical effects for me working through this.

 

Manon Bolliger  28:08

Yeah, well that’s the power of it. I mean, I, you know, I, cuz, you know, I didn’t know when I started my practice, like, well, over 30 years ago, you know, it’s like, how come if you can see biologically that they have this, but then they something happens some part of their journey, there’s some healing, some awakening some whatever to do with something I’ve done or not doesn’t matter. Yes. You know, and it’s like, well, that’s not true anymore. You know, and it’s like, it’s like the body is so capable of adapting to the mind. Right? Which is also why not being conscious of our, the role our thoughts and our beliefs play. It also has a major impact on our body, right?

 

Kristen Blythe  28:57

Absolutely. Yep. And our nervous system, especially that is very much something that we feel, and we experience when we’re activated, or we’re triggered by something, or we’re dissociated, or whatever state we’re finding ourselves in, that’s dysregulated. And we don’t realize that that’s 100% informed by our mind and our emotions, and the trauma that we’re carrying, because it all happens on this unconscious subconscious level most of the time, unless we’re willing to sit down and look at it and trace it and say, Why am I being activated? Yeah, we can use the body as a tool to help lead us to these things. And I think that’s another really important thing that I learned was that, you know, it’s not just about spirit and intuition and all this stuff up here. I call myself a holistic life coach because it’s mind, body and spirit together and you can’t just have you know, We hear about the mind body connection. And that’s a great progress forward that it’s not just about body and symptomology, and things like that. But you, our trauma affects our spirit as well. It affects all parts of us. And so we have to work with all parts of us to resolve that. And it’s funny because, you know, the spirit part of it, or the energy part of it, is what makes the rest of it fall into place so much more quickly, but we try to address the physical things First, most of the time, you know.

 

Manon Bolliger  30:30

Right, yeah. It’s like the, it’s the elephant, but not the why the elephants in the room, right. So just our time is actually coming to an end. But I did want you to talk a little bit more, just directly about this. You have this free ancestral blueprint, basic workshop, and what is that about for people who are interested? And how do you take it, etc.

 

Kristen Blythe  31:00

Yep, that’s available on my website. Rooted was in www.rootedwisdomcoaching.com. And it is a free workshop. It’s self-paced, and it basically describes what the ancestral blueprint is how we’re impacted by ancestral energies, both in positive ways and limiting ways. So, the burdens and the blessings and how those actually complement each other, our blessings, help us resolve the burdens and our burdens and healing them help us create more blessings in the form of different skills, different wisdom and learning and growth that we do. So, it really gets into the details of that and the different types of burdens that we all have. And it’s kind of a prerequisite course for some of the other courses, I have to get into specific healing modalities and things like that you can do using this framework, so yeah.

 

Manon Bolliger  31:51

Great. Okay. Well, I’ll probably check it out. Great. Well, thanks so much for your time.

 

Kristen Blythe  32:00

Oh, thank you.

 

Manon Bolliger  32:02

For your knowledge and wisdom. Bye

 

Kristen Blythe  32:06

Thank you.

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