Consciousness, and the Future of Healing with Kelly S. Jones & Manon on The Healers Café

divine intervention. I mean, we’re all wanting it at some level, whether it’s at a personal level, interpersonal level, or, you know, global, right? So really, it’s about helping people to navigate their own personal journey and how they can center in themselves, right? Return to the core of their being. Move Move aside, if you will. Kind of, I’m seeing the parting of the Red Seas. It’s like, how do you part the Red Sea in order to get back to the truth of you? And that’s what the Akashic records is very profound at doing, and dismantling the fears and dismantling the beliefs and the old identity that is not allowing people to achieve and arrive at the the new thresholds of their, of their greatest self, 100%

Manon Bolliger  06:47

Yeah. I mean, it is. It does feel like we’re, we’re in that time now you know where it’s it is happening. Oh, yeah, more and more

Kelly S. Jones  06:57

Wave has hit,

Manon Bolliger  06:59

very exciting, yes, so I guess, I mean, my show is about healing, and awakening is part of the healing process, and it’s, you know, it’s looking in and and allowing whatever comes up that needs to be seen, heard or expressed To come out, right? So I’ve never been too attached on how, though, you know, I’ve had, I’ve had some modalities, and I run a college actually, so there’s definitely some attachment to a method I trust and, you know, have confidence in seeing results. And it’s very simple, because usually these things are simple, we complicate very well said, yes, yeah, but I personally, I feel at a it’s like in a waiting time,

Kelly S. Jones  08:00

pregnant pause?

Manon Bolliger  08:02

Yeah, maybe it’s a pregnant pause, but it’s been for a while now, this little pregnant pause, you know, so, so I guess I’m curious if there’s anything that you can see, or how you would address that you know. Like, I’ve never been a dispassionate person. And you know, I did lose my license as a naturopath, but, I mean, willing fully, I actually did it through common law properly so that I’d have nothing to do with the these bodies. If I was, I mean, I wasn’t going to go against my oath as a human being. So that was more important than anything else to me. But it’s interesting. It’s also been a, you know, after 30 plus years of practice, it’s been a difficult time, because I feel like there’s been, for me, a lot of grieving, grieving of what, what people don’t know, has happened. Sorry. Well, I’m thinking, I’m thinking, you know the bio weapon that was used. And how, you know, people believe in authority and in this, you know, the younger generation. I’m talking about 30s, 40s, you know, yeah, they just gobble it up, like, that’s how it is. And, you know, and the impact it has on them, on their children, that you know, the future it took. Yeah, it it really was a grieving period for me. I am i I’m over that. Now. I’m finally in the okay. Everything happens for a reason. It’s everyone’s path. You. Know, it’s not my path that I have my own, and then it’s kind of like realizing, you know, I’m not ambitious, I’m just very present to what I do when I’m doing it. And right now, I’m so called retired.

Kelly S. Jones  10:17

Congratulations.

Manon Bolliger  10:22

But it’s interesting. I it’s like I have this sense of so much more that’s coming.

Kelly S. Jones  10:30

Oh yeah,

Manon Bolliger  10:31

yeah, and yeah. And it’s, I want glimpses of it. I’m a little impatient to know what it is.

Kelly S. Jones  10:39

Well, yeah, and I think the patience, I think that’s a really good point, right? So it’s, it’s, it’s an alchemizing of the internal being, right? And that then creates for yourself, without needing an external validation or an external view, that things are changing, because it’s right, we’ve got that collective, and the collective is going to be on its own timeline, and there is a splitting, if you will, right, of the timelines, and there are going to be those that are not interested. They’re not waking up, and that’s okay, right? It’s like they’re, they’re going to get there, it’s just going to be on their own time. And if we look at ourselves and we look at anybody else in our lives, they’re doing their own thing on their own time, no matter how you know, what is the classical saying, you can bring a horse to water, but you can’t make them drink, right? So it’s, it’s that, and I appreciate what you’re saying about the grieving process, right? It’s just like my sense is this, and tell me if this feels right for you, it’s like, did I do enough? Was what I was my stepping away or shifting focus and direction, bringing me more in harmony and alignment with where I can have a positive impact, and can be influential in a way that brings about the changes you’re looking for and that you know are possible. Does that resonate? Yeah, I think.

Manon Bolliger  12:10

I mean, I wasn’t going to give up my freedom of speech for my diploma or my degree, that’s for sure. And I don’t have a did I do enough? I felt like I reached a lot of people. And no, and I feel quite, quite good about that part of it, you know? So it’s more just an an openness and curiosity and see curiosity about the future,

Kelly S. Jones  12:37

yeah, but well, let’s just ask and see, right? So it’s interesting, when you first started talking, when right? Your your Akashic masters and teachers and guides are referencing this idea of, there is a building up, there’s a building up, and just like, I don’t know, let’s say a grasshopper, right, right? It’s like building up to take that leap, and you have to have that strength, that power behind the movement. And so that pregnant pause has that feeling of needing to keep collecting one’s energy. And in order to do so, right, you have to feed yourself mentally, emotionally, physically, the right nutrients, the right thoughts, the right the positive emotions. But at the same time as that’s happening, right, we gotta remove what is no right, what is no longer serving us. And that builds so that when the time is ready, and to me, what I’m sensing is we’re really at the, the threshold of this change. I mean, like right now, in this moment, the moment we’re talking things are, are taken. I know that’s like, I’ve, I’ve felt the same pregnant pause. I’m feeling the same movement forward. And it’s, it’s, how are we re identifying who is the new version, what’s right. We’re birthing. One of the things that’s coming through for a long time is birthing a new or newer reality, and we’re leaving the old behind. And so even right, that that grieving, it’s like, Okay, I’ve done it, and it’s and it’s ended right. It’s claiming that, and it is complete, right?

Manon Bolliger  14:24

Yeah, no, I feel like it was. It had to be done as an empath. Otherwise, I couldn’t be there for others in the next phase, right? I’d be grieving with them, you know? So here it’s like, I’ve done it now, exactly. I mean, you know, yeah, on an individual basis, it’s not that light. But you know, in general, that’s kind of how I feel. So is there anything else that an Akashic Record? Word could bring out, because I mean this so far, could be any spiritual healer or reader would say, we’re at these, these awakening times. What makes it unique, if a person wanted to do get their Akashic Records read, what, what sort of questions would make it more less general, you know, like there were, I could say, oh, that’s,

Kelly S. Jones  15:30

you know, personal, personal

Manon Bolliger  15:33

to me, or that’s something I hadn’t seen or, or maybe I should ask, is there something that I’m not seeing, that I need to be made aware of. Is that a type of question? Okay, well, then it’s,

Kelly S. Jones  15:48

yeah, okay. I’m, for some reason, I’m seeing an older group of clientele, and at the same time, a younger group. Do you do you do all ages? Or do you do two age ranges?

Manon Bolliger  16:08

All ages? Yeah. And

Kelly S. Jones  16:10

what do you do with the with the younger group, the younger crowd?

Manon Bolliger  16:15

Well, the same things that I would do, just a different connection.

Kelly S. Jones  16:20

Okay, okay, so there’s something, there’s something birthing in the seven to nine year old range that you’ve not seen yet, that’s ready to come forward. And that’s fascinating, because this is just me sharing right at seven years old, we move out of full functioning subconscious, right? Right? Exactly. So it’s how then do they bring their gifts forward and not lose sight or touch with them in order to be the next catalyst that the world is really looking for? So that’s again, me speaking. It’s fascinating, right? Because it’s like, it’s not our generation, the last generation. It’s like, down to the the seven, eight and nine year olds right now that are going to be the real transformers of humanity.

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Kelly S. Jones  18:23

Mm, hmm, okay, does that give you

Manon Bolliger  18:28

yeah that, yeah, that’s interesting, yeah,

Kelly S. Jones  18:32

yeah, yeah. So it’s not and, and so, okay, so where the older generations to those children matter is how then they relate, how they support, what their interactions are doing, what their limitations are projecting onto them, so that that’s one of the reasons they’re so critical, right? The older generations to actually, my term, get their act together, right? Awaken. And I look at awakening as recognizing I’m responsible for my reality, right? I’m right. I’m the creator, co creator, of what’s going on. It’s not I’m a victim, it’s I’m awake to what’s truly happening here, even if I don’t understand it completely, even if I don’t have all the answers I’m taking right? I’m stepping forward, empowered, yeah, by an experience.

Manon Bolliger  19:25

It’s interesting. I’ve often had the feeling, but no context for it, but that the the young kids, but I guess I was thinking more, 567, more the age where they would read or or be read to, and the sort of grandparents, you know, how or in a community, how they would be connected, how that link is really important, that that’s where I mean, I remember having that thought when I was 2220 Three, like, very strongly that, you know, thinking, actually almost organizing it, you know. So it’s interesting that it, it’s, there’s something there. Definitely interesting.

Kelly S. Jones  20:13

Yeah, definitely. So, how do you work? How do you work with the children? Now, if I may ask,

Manon Bolliger  20:20

Well, right now I’m not working. That’s the whole point. I’m the pregnant pause is very pregnant,

Kelly S. Jones  20:26

got you, but you’re still running your university,

Manon Bolliger  20:29

yeah, and that’s a, that’s a pain elimination methodology. It’s touch. I have taught it to very young people, but more in their early teens, so they can do it to their families. Because it’s a community, you know, easily could be a community based methodology, very easy. It’s, you know, it’s a mind body thing, but it is through the body. It’s called Bowen therapy. So I have a Bowen college is what I run, right? But it’s, yeah, it’s, it was not intended at this point for that age group. But you never know, right, exactly. You never know that may be the, you know, a way of having them contribute and feel, because, I mean, healing just goes through you anyways. So, you know, I know I had this Russian family where I do speak some Russian, but I was, it was, you know, she was translating essentially because she could speak better than her parents and and then she ended up learning it to be able to do it to her brother, nice, you know, and that’s it, you know, there’s something about that that I really resonate with, what part well, that then that it could be used for family and community, that It’s and that it’s empowering to the young generation, and extremely helpful to the older generation as well, because it puts the body in parasympathetic you really relax, etc, etc, right, right.

Kelly S. Jones  22:14

Well, and it’s interesting, because just reverting back to the question you were asking before, the question we responded to, which is, what questions do people often ask? Right, for that transformation, for that new insight, for that new Understanding and Right, like even a parent, let’s say of one of these children might say, How can I better assist my child in accessing their gifts or right, what is it in my parenting style that might be blocking their you know, flourishing, flourishing, or what am I doing well that I can enhance or promote or Support? What is it within me that is unhealed, that I’m unaware of, and yet I operate from I right, I communicate from that wound and that wants to be addressed and healed once and for all. So there’s right, there’s that, and it’s just on a different, little bit of a different note, like I was speaking with a an executive the other day, because I worked with executives as well, and unaware of right, what kind of questions can be asked. So from even that perspective, it can be right, there’s a building and there’s a an operation that’s going on, and there’s a question is that, is that to continue? What do I need to know? What is hidden from me? Is there, right? Because I do feng shui as well. Is there something in the space that’s blocking the flourishment of my business and the the people, the patrons that come here? So it was eye opening for him when I was just sharing these questions, like, yeah, these are right, because it’s all on the question. I mean, we live the answers, but it’s still on the question, yeah, exactly.

Manon Bolliger  24:08

Well, I’ve got another question for you, then tell me.

Kelly S. Jones  24:12

Find more questions.

Manon Bolliger  24:14

Okay, so, and actually, a lot of the viewers would would be aware of this, so I have my partner has been experiencing pain now for two years, and it’s like a post herpetic neuralgia. What is that? Say it again. So it’s like, you know, you might have herpes or shingles. Actually, that’s what it’s officially Yeah, and then 20% of people develop a neuralgia. So either, like, your pain, really strong nerve pain, sometimes it’s a little like tingly, but the in. Case, it’s very strong, nerve pain, debilitating, and it’s all in his case, it’s dyslexic, it’s the right ear, you know, right inside and around that area.

Kelly S. Jones  25:14

Can you share his first name with me? Yeah, sure.

Manon Bolliger  25:17

And it’s his official first name, not birth first name. It’s Tony. It was Anthony, but he’s changed it to Tony. Joyce, okay, yeah. And um, so we’ve had wonderful people doing work.

Kelly S. Jones  25:35

What happened around the time when that when the initial onset?

Manon Bolliger  25:39

Yeah, so it was, it was Christmas time in 2021, I think just before the shots came out, which he didn’t take. He didn’t take because that’s very common from people who have taken it to have an effect on the immune system. But do you take in, no, no, not a chance. But four out of the five kids of ours did, and so that’s where the a lot of the grief and the the fear of all of the you know, they were in the stages of being able to have babies or not and all of that. So we had done everything we could to give them the little bit of information that was available. But we were misunderstood. We were conspiracy theorists. We were in all of that stuff, which, if it wasn’t that, it could be so damaging,

Kelly S. Jones  26:44

did he get covid?

Manon Bolliger  26:47

No, we even tested for it, hoping we had because then it’s like, okay,

Kelly S. Jones  26:53

some explanation, at least. Well, it feels like there’s a strain of something that that there was a connection of some sort, but it was like a splitting, if you will, right? There’s like one strain, one one thing that got in to his hearing, bloodstream, right? So I definitely write work with clients on issues like this, and how I like to work is where they’re working with their medical team, right? So it’s, it’s, they can corroborate, collaborate, you know, I mean, I’ve, I’ve, I’ve helped quite a few clients with some significant things going on, where it was like, okay, that’s poisonous to your body. Please go back immediately and check. And sure enough, it was, it was like, oh gosh, you like, that’s not helping you. Is there something going on with his leg as well? Is there anything in the

Manon Bolliger  27:50

limbs, in his hand? Actually, it’s his left hand right in, sort of in this part here, he’s, yeah, he gets into a lot of pain. And, you know, like opening it up helps, and pressing on it helps. And, you know, as far as we’ve done a bazillion therapies, you can imagine, okay,

Kelly S. Jones  28:14

I’m gonna just suggest, you know, you’ll have to follow up with me later, because it seems so

Manon Bolliger  28:22

in the room, I’m by the way, Hi, Tony.

Kelly S. Jones  28:26

It could be so simple as, like, vitamins, like, vitamin C, vitamin D. Like, there’s something almost feels like vitamin C. Like, I would have some blood work done and have that check just vitamin levels, basic human vitamin levels.

Manon Bolliger  28:45

Okay, so we did do that. Did you? Yeah, in Mexico? Because in Mexico they do full blood work, anything you want. No questions asked.

Kelly S. Jones  28:55

I’d check it again. Yeah, okay, okay, and I wouldn’t go to Mexico for it. Go to Mexico.

Manon Bolliger  29:02

No, you didn’t do it here, yeah, yeah. But, um, it’s so, you mean, it could be a too much or missing.

Kelly S. Jones  29:10

Feels missing. It’s like something’s missing, something’s not quite converting, right? Like, we eat, we do, like, right? So there’s something that feels like it’s not quite converting, okay, the body, there’s like a misfire.

Manon Bolliger  29:27

Okay, interesting, yeah, and then we’ll look, yeah, yeah, okay,

Kelly S. Jones  29:30

yeah, yeah. And this, this Has he had any dreams of off planet being with off planet beings,

Manon Bolliger  29:44

I don’t think so. Sorry.

Kelly S. Jones  29:47

So remember, I do Christ, like transmissions. Yeah, right, like that to me there, there feels like there’s also an element of implant. There’s an implant, like there’s connection. Ha.

Manon Bolliger  30:00

Happening, right? Yeah, okay, that that, I think he, he gets that there’s something like that, yeah, yeah.

Kelly S. Jones  30:07

It just, it definitely feels, yeah, yeah. So, so what are the things that can be done also at that level, right? So we’ve got, yeah, multi dimensional beings. So there’s multiple layers that are taking, taking place here. So one of the things that can he can do is to say, Hey, turn down the volume, right? Let’s shift this to a more harmonious, pleasant experience. For me, it’s too much,

Manon Bolliger  30:34

right, because it has gotten worse. And that’s what’s funny. You know, by the six month, it was like, you know, when we didn’t, you know homeopathy and Chinese medicine, and, you know, it was manageable. Now it’s like nine or 10 out of 10 in pain, like every two hours were up high, like this. It’s absolutely and he feels like it’s, it’s like, like, somebody’s taking fire.

Kelly S. Jones  31:05

Love to do, I’d love to do a Christ like, Yeah, I mean, right, that’s, that’s bigger than, for example, the setting. And, yeah, okay, attempting to accomplish here, sure, right? And I know he’s tried everything, so I, you know, I can’t make any guarantees, as you know, but

Manon Bolliger  31:22

that’s tell us a little bit what that is for those who are listening.

Kelly S. Jones  31:29

I got the same question. I had the same question when I was asked to do them. So it’s really the embodiment of love, right? The frequency of high love, and it’s attuning ourselves back to that vibration, that frequency. And so what I do is, with all my work, I set a sacred container of which we operate within, and then love how my teacher is this, like you get five minutes to talk and then, no, I’m kind of kidding, where, right, so, but we open the container of which then the energy starts moving, and I start at the head, right where? What’s happening electromagnetically. We’re electromagnetic, so I’m, I have the capacity in in my work, to hear, see, sense, feel and know. And so then we, you know, using my hands. And again, I don’t need as I’m doing this, I’m thinking, everybody’s going, Oh, she needs to be in person. No, it can be done remotely. So all my work can be done remotely. And it’s about first starting at the head to Again, align that frequency to love and the heart. But then I’m guided by his guides, right? His soul, his spirit, where what’s stuck? Where is it? What’s going on? And I’ve everybody is different. So I’ve had so many experiences. And there’s stories, right? There might be stories trapped in the DNA, in the cellular tissue, and it’s about clearing those out. And, you know, listen, some people need to continue laying down. They fall asleep for hours, like there’s all kind, you know, sometimes the energy keeps working for days, and they’re instructed on what to do and how to do it. So I hope that answer,

Manon Bolliger  33:15

yeah, yeah, no, no, I think so. And feng shui, I’m not going to ask you about, because I’ve already had people talk about Feng Shui. So I feel like that

Kelly S. Jones  33:24

one’s, well, I’ll just say, Happy Chinese New Year. That’s right, fire, horse year.

Manon Bolliger  33:29

Now, exactly, yeah, actually, with that, what should one keep in mind?

Kelly S. Jones  33:36

I think one of the, one of the main thing. I mean, there’s right, so many layers and levels, but I think one of the main things would be the fire horse wants to charge ahead, and what we need to have is that temperance. So, I mean, I’m even watching it in myself already, right? It’s like, I want to run, run ahead with an idea, and then it’s like, Oh, wait. Because we need that pause. We want that Pause to Allow it to integrate and to align with either it’s moving me in the right direction or no, that was a little hasty, right? So we’re going to have a lot of passion and excitement and movement forward. And there’ll be fear, right? We’ll have that fear element as well. So it’s about pacing peaceful pace as much as possible, a gallop,

Manon Bolliger  34:26

a gallop, yeah, well, actually, this is actually a inner energetic question, sure. Because when I was seeing the, you know, the the fire and the horse, the image of it going forward, is it about allowing that, but then taking the time to kind of see what what happened with it, rather than modulating like then diminishing the fire? Going forward. Do you know what I’m saying?

Kelly S. Jones  35:03

Yes and no. I think you have a valid perspective as well. And right, this and that, right? I would say we have to each identify, right? So I’ll just give you a brief in Chinese astrology. I do something called Classical astrology, which is called four pillars of destiny. So most of us are used to what my animal sign is, right? I’m a horse, I’m a dog, I’m a pig, whatever the animal sign is. But we’ve got eight other seven other characters, right, or six other than the fire horse. So it depends on the temperature of our chart. Got it. Okay? So if we have all this fire coming in, is it, is it harmonizing with us? Is it? What is it doing, right? What? And I’m sorry, it’s all eight characters we’ve got the year coming in. So write that eight characters, what it? What is it doing to me? So if it’s, if it’s combative to me, right, then I might have to slow things down, and you’re going to feel this like this year is so strong elementally in fire. Yeah, you’re going to pick up and sense how it’s influencing you to know others are not always so clear cut

Manon Bolliger  36:16

makes sense, right? But it makes sense that it has a context. So therefore you got to look at the context of it, which

Kelly S. Jones  36:25

otherwise it’s it loses its meaning, right, right?

Manon Bolliger  36:29

Okay, well, actually, our time is up. Did you want to say the last few words or how people could get hold of you?

Kelly S. Jones  36:37

Oh, sure, I’d love to. So my website is my full name, which is Kelly, K, E, L, L, y, s, as in star j, O, N, E, S, jones.net So Kelly s jones.net and, yeah, I mean, it’s my passion to help people live an empowered life and follow follow their truth and their joy. And I would just add one interesting tidbit. I one of the one of my superpowers, if you will, is helping people find the right words to convey what they truly mean and to say it in a way that it can be received and land in the other person’s heart. And some people find that difficult or challenging at certain points in time, maybe not all the time. So if somebody’s finding that to be a truth, happy to help. Okay.

Manon Bolliger  37:31

Well, thank you very much. The conversation with Kelly Jones, where she’s explained a little bit about the Akashic records, what I found interesting there too is how, again, this can give a background or consciousness to at what stage in you know, your soul’s evolution you might be at, and again, you know, can we know that it’s right or true or whatever, like all of those things, it’s an inside job. You know you either resonate, and when it resonates with you, then you it liberates something that opens up a space where more healing is than possible, or you resist it, and you can resist it because it’s not the right time for this information, or simply it’s just not a fit. It doesn’t it’s not the right time because maybe it’s not right for you. So it’s interesting how to work with this. And as we’re entering a time period of greater awakening, some people call it, you know, like 5d consciousness, Christ consciousness, I think looking at the Akashic records can really inspire a step forward. So I might be following this up. We’re going to be doing a little bit of work with Tony, who is suffering from pain, and we’ll see if there’s some breakthroughs there that can put clarity in the last couple of years of really pain and suffering.

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